183. Queer, Kinky, & Creatively Free: Collapsing Timelines Through Radical Truth (With Emily Alter)

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183. Queer, Kinky, & Creatively Free: Collapsing Timelines Through Radical Truth (With Emily Alter)

What if storytelling was more than entertainment? What if it was resistance, reclamation—and a radical path to healing?

In this thought-provoking episode of The Embodied Writing Warrior Podcast, I talk with author, social psychologist, and licensed sex therapist Emily, whose queer, kinky romance books are anything but conventional.

We dive into what it means to write fiction that challenges systems of power, centers marginalized voices, and brings taboo experiences into the light. With their background in psychology and activism, Emily brings a rare depth to everything they write—from sweet kink romance to stories of survival and chosen family.

Here’s what we explore together:

  • Why queerness is more than an identity—it’s a political stance

  • How kink reveals power dynamics that mirror (and challenge) real-world oppression

  • What makes a queer or kink community truly safe (spoiler: it’s not perfection—it’s accountability)

  • The truth about marketing as a politically outspoken author on Threads and social media

  • Healing through writing: how Emily wrote their way out of heartbreak and into hope

  • The power of writing collaborative book series with other indie queer authors

  • Why not all kinky books have to be dark—and how wholesome kink is deeply needed

Emily also shares how one reader’s email reminded them that their stories can change lives. From visibility to validation to helping someone find a queer-affirming therapist—this is the kind of ripple effect Emily’s work creates.

If you're a creative who wants to write boldly, love deeply, and leave a meaningful impact, this episode is your permission slip to go all in.

Listen now, and take Emily’s embodiment challenge to reconnect with the deeper why behind your creative work.

Mentioned In This Episode: Ep. 182 - What Happens When You Own Your Full Identity: From Fear To Frequency

Emily’s Embodiment Challenge

Ask yourself: Why am I writing this? What am I writing it for?

Take a moment to reflect on your deeper why—the intention, emotion, or impact behind what you’re creating.

Transcript

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Kayla: I'm Lily. Welcome to the Embodied Writing Warrior Show. Hi. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for agreeing to be a guest. Emily, I reached out to myself because I wanted her on the show so much because she has so much value and depth to bring, and I'm very excited for this conversation.

Emily: Yeah, I'm so excited too, I got so excited because I'd always wanted to do podcasts I was going to do one with some company, but then it fell up because of life and stuff. So yeah, I got super excited.

Kayla: So Emily, why don't you tell our listeners a little bit about you and the work you do in the world because it is so powerful and just, it's gonna be a great conversation.

Emily: Yeah, so I'm no sir first, and so I write, Quillian and Suffolk Romance. Like the main thing is that it's all kinky and there's like a big focus on community and queerness in general. Not just as like an identity, but also like a political, stance, which I think it's especially important right now.

But I'm also like, I come from a background of social psychology and I work as a social psychologist as well, and I'm a licensed sex therapist as well. And yeah, so that also like influences everything. I also do some activism on the side when I have the time for it, but yeah.

Kayla: That was one thing I loved so much about your background is that you weave together the social psychology, the sex therapy, and you do the political work around queerness and you're very open about kink and all of these sort of things, and you have this very educated perspective on.

So because it is so prevalent right now, as you mentioned, why don't we start with this idea of queerness as a political statement instead of an identity alone? 'cause that's a really big place to work.

Emily: Yeah, sure. So like. I feel like lately there are more conversations about this, which I love.

Like I keep seeing like posts on threats and like there's social media, but how like queer doesn't equal lgbtq plus and like that's a heel that people are starting to be like, this is a he die on and I am so happy to see it because like to me, yeah, like. Queerness can be also used as a simple like quote unquote simple individual identity.

Right. And it's totally valid as well. But like I feel like if we look at the history of the lgbtq plus movement, then like queerness comes with more layers to it. Like I feel like there, it's not just being gay or being gender nonconforming. It's like more of like explicit political statement that you are breaking like the binaries and societies, norms.

And it's also more ingrained with the idea of, community and the work that we're doing and how it's not just about. Having an identity or another. It's also about the way power structures work and how current society is working and oppressing groups based on hierarchies, based on a million other things.

Kayla: You know, I think as you mentioned, this is a. Powerful conversation to have. So what I'm hearing is it's not just simply identifying as one of the, you know, gay, lesbian, whatever it might be, but it's actually taking a stand and getting more involved.

Emily: Yeah, definitely. And this doesn't mean of course, that someone just identifying as like lesbian or gay is not as politically involved or is not like solid.

That is not at all what I'm saying. But I do feel like when someone says like they're queer or they write queer romance instead of like gay romance or lesbian romance, like a part of me is gonna intrinsically trust them more. Sometimes they're just using the word as an umbrella term, and that is also fine, but like generally it comes with like a different, or like an extra set of political beliefs that you think are gonna align more and lead like a safer space and safer practices.

Kayla: Can you give us a little bit of insight on what those distinctions are,

Emily: I think it's just be, because obviously it's not a monolith either, right? I'm gonna like this, like a list of a number of things because then everyone is gonna show up and be like, no, actually I identify as queer.

And this is not at all what represents me. But I do feel in general, like with using the word queer, and especially when you're using it intentionally,

maybe like a deeper understanding of the history and the power structures and the hierarchies and how like the oppressions work. And so like it's more rare to find certain senses that we can associate with like right wing policies for example,

Kayla: absolutely. And how does your.

Stance, your queerness and your alignment with these values impact the writing you do.

Emily: It definitely impacts it. Like I think, also it, I also link it with, kink and, because at the end of the day, kink has a lot to do with power dynamics and power structures as well, when I got into kink, like I got into it first from a very theoretical perspective.

Like I read a lot of like books and articles and like studies and everything, I guess that was the social psychologist in me. It's another layer in my writing. I try to be very aware of like all the,

different ways that empower and societal hierarchies affect someone's existence and someone's way to, relate to the world and with the people around them and the institutions around them, and even with their own selves and how they're gonna perceive themselves and interact with their own bodies and their own expressions.

And it is very heavily impacted because of queerness and kink and just being aware of all of those things.

Kayla: Absolutely. So would you say that most of the kink community is also queer

Emily: no, it really depends. I think, there were a couple studies about it somewhere that within queer spaces there tends to be, more likelihood to be open to the idea of kink and that basically has to do with like, hmm.

How social groups work, right? Because when? When like, but King is like a taboo group too, because it does not conform to the hetero, patriarchal understanding of sex and queerness is also another taboo group in that sense. So once you are outside of mainstream society, it's easier for you to like.

Navigating go into another type like group that has been thrown out of the mainstream society because there's still a barrier, but it's not as thick to put it somehow. So I do think there's more likelihood there, but of course there's plenty of straight people in the community and that.

People in the king community and like obviously there's also like toxic people and nontoxic people there's also toxic people in queer groups, because there's toxic people like queer, but yeah, like the thing like queer people that have the like. More staff likelihood to be open to kink and other experiences that might have been pushed outside of the mainstream.

But I'm not sure that I be comfortable saying it goes the other way around as well.

Kayla: Thank you for sharing that. And one thing you touched on was this idea that there are toxic people, toxic groups everywhere. And I know community is a huge focus. What are some of the toxic or limiting things you find in these two communities, and then let's talk about what makes a really good queer community or really good kink community.

Emily: I think lately, the main thing that I care about when it comes to seeing a community that I want to be a part of or that I want to stay in. It has to do with accountability. Obviously we're all at the end of the day reconstructing ourselves and it's a process that never ends, right?

There's always work to do and so there's always going to be people that are gonna fuck up somehow. For with one thing or another and it maybe a tiny fuck up, it maybe a big fuck up because at the end of the day we all have some kind of privilege, even if it's a tiny one.

And we all have like biases and things that we don't have like enough education on or like a million other things. So I think like. Really love to see, like, what makes a place a good and safe community for me is that accountability in the sense of like if someone does something harmful or says something or whatever, like I want that community to be able to call it out and have that person take responsibility but also not in the sense of.

Like I'm throwing you out because you said this thing that's bad. You did this and now we're gonna see what steps we're gonna take to repair these damage and still be a part of this, you know?

Kayla: Absolutely. And I love that you bring that up because I think at the end of the day, most people really wanna do their best and they don't wanna wrong or hurt anyone.

We actually had a really good exchange before this interview about somewhere where. I didn't realize I was being a little bit exclusive or had work to do, and that was just in the guest form about, sharing that the podcast was for women, because that's a large percentage of my listenership.

And in doing so, it wasn't language that made you as a non-binary person feel included, and that made me. Take some accountability and do that reflective work of how can I be more inclusive? And again, this comes from someone who has a big heart and never wants to do wrong by anyone. So for other people that are in similar situations that want to be more inclusive and wanna hold spaces for everyone's experience, what are like two to three of the things you'd really love them to know?

Emily: If. I go back, back to the guest for like when I emailed li like, it wasn't like I wasn't trying to attack or like. Like I wasn't even mad about it. I was just, it got me off guard, like only women stuff because I was like, I'm very open about being non-binary. My pronouns are absolutely everywhere.

She said that, they have to check out my website or my pronouns are there. I just wanted to double check because as I told you in email, I understand and absolutely agree with need to have like. Spaces that are just for certain groups that face different types of violence one way or another.

But at the same time, of course I didn't feel like comfortable with the idea of like being read as a, gender that I'm not, you know, so that was my thing. And also they told me like, I don't know that I have like a cookie cutter answer or like a way to fix everything and like have the perfect language.

Like, because I do think, and from like the groups that I'm a part of, like the activist groups that I'm a part of, I think that is still like an ongoing conversation that we're having. And so there's another way, but I do feel like. It's about being open to having that conversation. First of all, you know, like when I message you and you replied right back and you were so open to listening and to, and that was great.

And for me, like I think that's the main thing. Like language isn't perfect and it's evolving and we're still figuring everything out, but yes, having like that willingness to be open and also from like the other person's. To have a bit of that because I can understand having like an instant like knee-jerk reaction to being like, oh no, you know?

And sometimes like, it's valid, but like I would love it if like people had like a bit more race, like an all sides, and especially when I, Hmm. Like obviously if it's like a hardcore like, I dunno, like Republican saying it, it's like okay, you don't have to be like super nice about it from the get go.

No, but it's like a regular person or like someone that you know does good work in like many other areas. I do think like being open to those conversations is the like best like first thing to do, also maybe like, you know, I think like sometimes, when it comes to like, I don't wanna say like segregating groups, but like when making, groups that are more focused on like one or another experience, I think it's valuable to ask, to really ask yourself like.

Why are you making that distinction? Like, because in some areas it's gonna be like relevant and 100% do it, but sometimes, it's like, do you really need to make this distinction? Like is it relevant exactly, or are you just, doing this because it's more comfortable for you specifically? I don't know if that makes sense.

Kayla: It gave me pause to think about this show, and is it really for women? Why does that need to be the case? Could it not just be for. Creative, spiritual, intense, wild people who, you know what their gender is not really relevant.

However, those are things that help everyone regardless of gender because they're, it's not. Necessarily a gender, but there are kind of like masculine and feminine qualities that every single person has. It's not like black or white, regardless of the human. So that really, again, I'm gonna have to look at some of my podcast marketing, and I again appreciate you for ringing it to my attention and I think.

I definitely always try to be open and honor everyone's experience. 'cause I know everyone has their own experience and I think if you can bring that to any conversation, that goes a long way. And yeah, just always be reflecting and looking at how we can proof.

Emily: Yeah, definitely. And I appreciate that approach a lot.

I think this, a lot about podcasts and stuff but also imagine that precisely because of the feminine energy that you're talking about. Obviously you're not gonna get a. Ton of men and specifically the kind of men that we usually want to avoid, precisely because of that.

So I think that already does that kind of marketing as well, maybe.

Kayla: Yes. So Emily, we have not even started talking about your writing journey too much yet, and I know you just got back from assigning and it was your first signing. So can you share a little bit about what that experience was like?

Emily: Yeah, so it was really great. Very overwhelming at first time, because as you said, it was my first sign in. It was my first time on an airplane alone. Like I've always traveled with either my family or my then girlfriend it was my first, time alone, it was very overwhelming, and also because it was all very last minute

I been on the wait list for this, which was an Indie pride book con in Manchester. And so I've been on the wait list and then Lucy, who's agency contacted me because, they have like free tables. 'cause of others who had to pull out and stuff. So of course I said yes because I've been waiting to go to signing forever, but it was very last minute.

Most of the like hotels, plane tickets, everything were already like gone, obviously. And then like I arrived, the signing was on Saturday. I arrived on Friday night and they were having a meeting read from like seven to 10:00 PM and I arrived like 9:00 PM And so I was, messing Liz with like, are you still there?

Because I was like, like exhausted from the plane and everything else. But at the same time, I'm gonna get so much formal if I miss it. Then it went great. And then the sign in, yeah, I didn't have like an assistant or anything, which was something that I still have had, because then I barely had time to set up in the morning before everyone started rolling around.

Yeah, the morning was very chaotic, but once, I set up everything and sat down it was very great it was great to talk to everyone and there were so many authors who stopped by my table who I wanted to talk to, so it was very great.

Kayla: So I know you've done, how do I describe this?

You've written books and series with other authors, which I think is so neat. So did you meet any of those authors at this signing?

Emily: I met two of them actually. So I had like three multi-author series and the first one, which was, uh, g Muzadi to book, I think you read. Yes. I don't think either there weren't any others from that series in designing or I missed them and I'm gonna feel terrible when this comes out.

And they're like, I was there. But no, I don't think there were any from sea there. But there was one author from the Possessive Love series, which was a paranormal, promise that they wrote. It's the only paranormal ever written, but it was planned to do it as part of like a collaborative project. And then there was a Casey Carmen, who's one of the authors in the run this series, which is a series we all publish to be all about low ang uh, trans, happy stories basically. So it was great. I actually sold out all the copies from that book and like a few of them were just readers find them. But, another couple of them. Were from readers who had been by Casey's table and gotten her book, and then they were like, oh yeah, move on to the other one.

So it was very great to be there and have a collaboration as well.

Kayla: Absolutely. And that's something I would love to dive into more because writing can feel really lonely and you're just there with your own book. At least that's been my experience. And meanwhile, you've done three collaborations.

So what does it look like to get involved in a writing community, and how do you even go about finding those groups, I haven't seen a lot of multi author series like this, and I just thought that was so magical. So can you share more?

Emily: Yeah. I mean, to be honest, I think it's a bit of being in the right place in the right moment.

For my first, collab series, I was in one of the million groups for writing and other support there was this post about collab projects and third worlds and I just posted a comment that I wanted to do, kinky with people Kinky works with people.

And then this one author, ignite. She reached out to me about a club that she was planning on doing and like I really admire her, because of how she writes King as well and like she wasn't, well, she is much I bigger author than me and so I was very excited about it I, became part of that club.

And from there, one of the authors in that same club was the one who, set up the Possessive Love series, Asline Mills. And that's how I got into the second one. So it is a lot like being in the right movie, right place, you know, because I have never got invited to the second one if I haven't been invited to the first one.

Yeah. And then, collab for, the trans, series. It was just this author that I've been talking to a lot, and they're the one who invited me. And yeah, but it's really great. I mean, of course it depends on the individual group and how much they want to actually lab and do cameos and all that stuff that makes it actually fun.

But yeah, it's great to have like groups of authors to just like. Talk about your day because it can be really lonely to just be with your laptop or your laptop and your dog in my case, so it's really great to have like that space there and also have that space run as well because we, others cannot really vent or talk about deeper stuff.

Social media most of the time. And even with our groups, outside of the writing community, it's like if you wanna vent about something, you have to give so much context and cues that at the end you're just like, leave it. So it is great to have those groups of people who are going to understand from the beginning why something is bothering you or why something is a big thing,

Kayla: I think you bring up such an interesting point about social media, especially for writers. 'cause you're expected to, you know, create the hook that gets people in within three seconds and, you know, appeal to their reptile brain and make it polarizing. But you don't have that time to give like the context and the depth and the nuance and.

What are your thoughts on social media as an author who wants to provide that depth, that context and those deeper conversations?

Emily: Yeah, I think it depends a lot on the different platforms as well, like the experience that you're gonna have.

And I have struggled a lot with social media as well, and certain things happen, like changing my entire content, in marketing because I don't just post big promo sometimes I do trends or whatever to try and go viral, but like I am also the kind of author people tell you not to be, keep posting more political stuff and divisive stuff, I guess you could say. Because we're supposed to keep pretending that things aren't political, even though we're writing like I'm writing queer Romans and marginalized identities at the end of the day that are being attacked, especially when it comes to the trans community.

And so I think but honestly, I think the I know not talking a very, straight narrative and I'm sorry about it. No, but the thing I have found, because I think at first I was trying to play nice, like do what people tell,

maybe not fully quiet, but be more like lessened, and like more correct in a way. And for the past. I don't know if it's been a year already, maybe so. For the past months I have been more like, fuck this, chaos is my brand and plastic is my brand, so I'm just gonna go with it. And so I have been more like outwardly political, especially on threats because that's where I get the most engagement.

And the thing is like everyone was born in me that like I was going to suffer from it. But it's been the opposite. Like I've had so many more like people who have like. Follow me on socials, of course, but subscribe. Subscribe to my newsletter. I've had, so many new readers, so many readers like emailing me and thanking me for like the books that I'm writing and the works that I've been doing,

so I'm like you know, I'm gonna keep doing this even though every like guru out there is gonna tell you not to do it because it's what, what's working. Because I do feel that, especially in like my, genre or like when you write like, queer pairings of any kind, I think the readership and the audience.

A, a part of it has been for a while now, really begging for more of that approach where we see vision as more of a stand as we were talking about earlier. And so I do think I have benefited from being more openly political and social, even though again, it's what people tell you not to do.

So I'm just gonna keep doing.

Kayla: Mm-hmm.

Emily: It's not like it also has its downsides. I get attacks, every time I talk a bit more about certain topics. But again, I am not going to change it. It's worth it to me to maybe have someone throw slurs at me so I get screen.

If that means I'm going to read the people who need to see the representation that I'm writing in books.

Kayla: Absolutely. And I think what's an interesting thing on the world is that people are gonna find some reason to judge you or troll you, no matter what you say. So why wouldn't you choose the things that align with your value, the things that matter to you, and the things that allow you to be fully self-expressed, because then you are gonna magnetize those people who really need your writing and your message.

So I love that you're. Doing that very brave thing, because I know how scary that can be.

Emily: Yeah. Like the other day I got one of those emails from a reader and they were talking about how. Not only the rap in my books and how I was writing queer, but they also mentioned how they'd been struggling finding a therapist and for other stuff because of their gender and their preferences

but then, they not only read my books, but saw and shows that I have a background in psychology and I was a sex therapist and so that made them look actively for a therapist that was queer friendly. And they were telling me how they were doing amazing.

And that touched me so deeply because it was like, affirming and validating that like, yes, but I am doing matters. And it's not just about the kink or about the Romans or about the smart or about any of it. You know, like that is real change to someone's, life,

Kayla: I think there's a lot of power in those stories and especially someone with your background, not only identity, but your education and your like.

Career knowledge to put all of that together and create these books that I've only read one so far, but it was so good and the dynamic between the two just felt very safe and also hot. If you wanna share a little bit about your writing process and the intentions you bring when you do write weird, kinky books, because that's a huge part of what set you apart.

Emily: Yeah. So I mean. Writing like queer characters for me is mostly about, wanting to see and have the representation in the world that we didn't really have growing up, that we still don't really fully have. The people around me, well the people who matter me around me, like it also are also very, like we are one way or another.

And writing for parents is what makes sense to me because it's what's around me. And for me, writing is about and has always been about making sense of the world and it's how I process and understand what's going on? And so yeah, like awareness was never a question that I was gonna write.

And when it comes to kink, I didn't actually start writing, kink from the get go. Like I already identified as thinking when I first published my first book. This is now unpublished for many other reasons, but regardless. I didn't write kink at first, but it was a combination of I wanted to have more rap because the most of the rap that I found was very bad.

I mean, when people think of a kinky book, they think of one particular trilogy. Yep.

Which is very bad.

Kayla: Yes.

Emily: Like I'm not naming it then we don't give it more like power, but we know what we're talking about and like even and other spaces, like I was just tired of seeing like media Simon King that was either. Explain like downright like toxic or abusive relationships masquerading in the skin or they weren't us, but they were very, or on the, sometimes I, I feel, and this is something that I like, talked on social media a lot and sometimes I get.

A lot of like discourse around it, which makes sense because sometimes like the single posts don't allow all the ones that you were mentioning. But I think that some many times, like BDSM and King are very associated with Dark Promise. And Dark Promise is great and you can absolutely have BDSM and King elements in that province.

But I was missing reading and seeing those elements in. Promise that's not dark. It doesn't have all those other layers, you know what I mean? So it was important for me to write like the kind of like pinky dynamics that I wanted to read about myself. And so a lot of it has to do with just like me being fed and wanting those books up there and knowing that.

They're not up there. Well, they are. I mean there are more authors who writing in the way that they do, but like not as many. So I just wanted to add to the numbers there. And it also helped because I think like one of the things that first you to King was kind of like having those like power dynamics really explicitly stated and.

How and how it helps me to like make sense of them and process them and navigate them in a way. So I wanted to have them in my books as well to also help express that.

Kayla: You make a really good point because. Other than your book, perhaps. All of the kinky books I've read have been Dark Romance. Like I'm thinking Katie, Robert, for example.

And your book, it had those elements of kink, but the romance was a word that comes to mind is just cute. And it was wholesome and it was just yeah. I love that you're bringing in this sense that like, it doesn't all have to be like. Dark and gritty because you can have that community that's very safe and the communication is there.

And I honestly feel like to be in that world, you wanna have a lot of trust. You wanna have a lot of communication. You wanna have that sense of safety because of the dynamics that are at play. You did a really beautiful job in your book of having the kink there, but also having the safety and the connection and the, the, yeah, I'm, I, I ship, Jen and Nathan a lot.

So speaking of your books, I wanna make sure that we dive into that. So you've written quite a few, and if listeners are listening and they're like. I wanna read queer, kinky books. Where would you recommend they start?

Emily: So I think, like my first answer is say they start with a play pretend, which is the first book in my current book Universe.

So right now the thing is, okay, so my initial idea was to just have like a, book series that was all the standalone titles and with many, different pairings and dynamics and like a bazillion of kinks because like that series goes from like 8 billion puppy plate to like C nnc, like it covers a new thing.

And I still have tons of books ago, but, yeah, it's not only, it's the first book to that book Universe, but it's also like one of the books that, or the book that I'm probably proudest of because it came at a time where I really needed to write it. So the thing is, in short, I'd been in like a very long relationship with, someone.

And then, we broke up and it was tough there for a while. It was messy. And so I found myself, writing a book to process. I like process everything around me by writing. So I started writing this person living, a bad relationship the first few chapters of her living, like that process that was super cathar, cathartic and super helpful to write.

But I kept struggling with. The fact that I could not picture how that person could ever have a happy ending, right? I could not picture how she could go from that place where she ended up and regain that trust or that hopefulness in love I started writing, and I think it's when I started writing a gift for Demon, which was the paranormal romance that I mentioned.

It's the only paranormal romance that I wrote. And that was fine because it was like a breath of for shared, you know, like supernormal, like I could like dissociate more and put more of a distance there. And then I dropped that book and that's when I wrote Mr.

Sound, which is probably the spiciest or one of the Spiciest books that I've written, because I was like, okay, I cannot write your like standard, like cozy like province right now, because I simply cannot, I was healing and I needed to heal before I could do that. So then I wrote that book was just, or like.

TPE, harder kinks and just like, I'm just writing this for this math. And so that made it easier for me to write and give them that happy ending because they still, of course, get a happy ending. And then I wrote Gift for Demon, but let me also have like more breathing room because it's paranormal.

There could be, more distance. And then that's when I wrote like 10. Employee pretend, and Cara also is escaping like a bad relationship. But the thing is, I could actually give her that happy and I, and that meant so much to me. Like I cried so much like both writing and then reading that book while editing on it because it signified for me like that.

Well, like I had. Heels. Like obviously not completely because, but like it meant a lot to see that like I could give like a survivor a happy ending, which I couldn't like a few months back. And so it's like a book that I'm proud of for that reason. And I think like it really reflects, what I'm about right now when it comes to like how I'm portraying community and how I am portraying relationships in general,

Kayla: I love a few things you said there. One is that the way we write really is a reflection of perspective of the world and also just being able to heal through writing. When we write fiction, we do get to process a lot of our stuff and we do get to, even if we have been heard, even if we have had like really heartbreaking things happen, we can still go forth and give these characters happy endings.

And that, often leads to us having a renewed hope and sense of wonder about what comes next. So thank you so much for sharing.

Emily: Yes. Thank you. Yeah, it is it really meant a lot. It was like I isolated myself a lot after that and during the first like months being able to get all those words out there and being able to experience for myself that, healing I went through in the book, it really meant a lot.

And it also was like, yeah. He didn't restart button and it like forced me to go back to reaching out to people and being open to new experiences and putting myself out there not necessarily romantically, but just putting myself out there for people to be able to help as well.

Kayla: Mm-hmm.

Emily: Absolutely.

Kayla: So Emily, if people do want to find you, get your books, you mentioned threads, what are the best places they can go to connect with you?

Emily: So right now I'm mostly spend time on threads and blue sky because I, I do want to invest from meta. At the same time, I'm not getting the engagement outside of Meta.

So it's kind of like that thing where like, I hate it, but at the same time I need it to be there. And, but mostly I'm on Threads and Blue Sky, also on Instagram and mostly like they can subscribe to my newsletter as well. I share like monthly newsletters unless I'm preparing for a launch. And then there's lots of like character interviews and like exclusive content that people can get.

And I'm also, pushing a lot for people to go to a re and subscribe there. It's a subscription platform. And the things people can get, like a lot of exclusive content, but also they can get all of my books if they don't wanna buy from Amazon or whatever. I'm also on Chemo Unlimited for those who use Amazon.

But yeah, like I'm just focused on moving away from monopolies as much as I can.

Kayla: Mm-hmm.

Emily: Right now. But yeah, mostly like social. For socials it would be like threats, Bluestein, Instagram, and then women, my newsletter are the best ways to have all the good stuff.

Kayla: Excellent, and I'll include all of that in the episode description.

And then one final question, I always love for my guests to give the listeners a embody challenge of time. So it can be a journal prompt, it can be maybe like a dance or a, a meditation or just a, some kind of practice that you would challenge the listeners to walk away with today.

Emily: I think, something that has helped me when I'm stuck with writer's block is to ask myself why am I writing this and what am I writing this for? And have a little bit of time to put that into words. So maybe that's something that people can do.

Kayla: I love that.

Yeah, just getting into the deeper why behind it, the connection, the emotion, and that is powerful. So Emily, thank you again for joining me today.

Emily: Yeah, thank you for having me.

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